Category: Geeks r Us
Okay… Internet time. If you guys can't answer these, I'll seek out a group who can, so no worries. Of course, I love my wireless connection, but once I get my Compaq back, I'll have to find and wait for a compatible wireless card. In the meantime, I'm deciding between getting a cheap dial-up account or getting an ethernet cable to connect directly into the wireless router. I'm pretty sure that I don't want a shell account if I choose dial-up. So that leaves me with ppp. and slip. What's the difference between these two, other than that ppp. is faster? What about differences between 56k flex, dual 56k (shotgun), 56k v.90 and single and dual isdn? How does a dsn. phone line compare to a regular one? How do they get the speed up to 128k? I'm assuming they use an accelerator and i s p compression. Sorry for the typo but the Mac won't let me write it properly without automatically correcting the spelling. At any rate, what's the difference between a voice modem, a v.70 modem and a dsn connection? I've used my internal 56k one with Windows to talk to people on the net. Is that because it's a voice modem and I didn't know it? If nothing else, it looks like connecting shouldn't be that difficult. If I use something like NetTamer, everything's already built-in. But if I don't, I'll need to get a packet driver, preferably one with a dialer. The advantage to dial-up is that I could fix it if something goes wrong. At least, I could in Windows. The best part is that I won't have technicians asking me about the lights and colours on the modem like they do with cable. It's so frustrating. So I might get dial-up for my XP machine too as a back-up.
If I go the ethernet route, which is preferred given it's speed, I'll need a card. I've found some information on connecting to a home network but am not sure if this would apply to things like Fios, a cable connection using fiber optics. Even if you guys don't know the answer to that, what information would I need for the packet driver to work, assuming it's like a regular home network? Would I have to call Verizon to get it or is it readily available?
Just bringing this back to the top incase anyone can help me. Hopefully, I can just go with wireless or ethernet, providing I can find an accessible browser that can work with them (not sure if Net-Tamer will be able to), but if not, this stuff is good to know.
I love how you start to ask a question you are wanting answers to. "Okay… Internet time. If you guys can't answer these, I'll seek out a group who can, so no worries." Now with that start would you expect all the information you seek to come flooding back Tisas? Smile. Your are asking for much and I am sure this group of geeks knows all you ask even me. I'll send you as I have always done to the books to read.
Kiss.
Thanks. Usually, I don't say that, but at that point, I was getting a bit frustrated. lol I've actually tried to do research on this in the meantime and had very little luck. so I came back here. If I still don't get a response, then I'll need to go to computing.net or to one of the Facebook computer groups. I thought this one would actually be relatively easy to answer for those in the know.
Go for the wireless! What's wrong with it? Nothing wrong with dial up...even today. You can get what is known as "fast dial up." It's not all that fast, of course, but it's an option.
There's nothing wrong with wireless. I just need to find either a Wavelan or Orinoko card, cause I know that those two work with DOS, and then I need to see which drivers I need. I don't mean just for the card but to get on the net as well. I also need to see which browser I can use. I know net-Tamer is very advanced but it was made to work with dialup, since it's got packet drivers and a dialer built-in. So I'm not sure if it'll work with a nondialup connection like wireless or ethernet. Btw, how fast does fast dialup go?
It should...never used it of course but I think it would.
Well, their webpage is here.
http://www.nettamer.net/
Apparently, they're still selling it, but it hasn't been updated in many years. this is why I'm a bit worried about using it, though I suppose I can try. Maybe, I can write to them and see if I could just use the browser without needing to use the dialer etc.
Now that I've given in my specs for a computer to several places, I once again started thinking about internet access, since I'll want a modem built into the machine. I stated that a 56k modem is mandatory, because I know that will definitely work, but also put a wireless card and ethernet as optional. The wireless card will be a bit tricky to configure, though I've read it can be done. Ethernet can definitely work but I'm not sure if I can use it with my Verizon Fios plan because I don't know what information, if any, I'll need to connect to the net that way nor if Verizon has the proper setup to work with DOS. I'll need to review the page on home networks that I found awhile ago and then call Verizon and see if they can assist me in getting the configuration or whatever is required. The other option that really interests me is ISDN. I've done a bit more research on it and found several isps in New Jersey that offer it in both it's 64k (single) and 128 (dual) forms as well as something called Dual Dedicated ISDN. I read that an isdn line is digital and not analogue and I know that the Verizon Fios line on the phone downstairs is purely digital. If I ask Mom to get me a separate line on her plan for my place, can I use that for an ISDN connection? As much as I love the idea of surfing at 128k, I don't want this to become ridiculously expensive. Is it even worth it to just use the one line at 64k or am I better off with regular 56K service? I also read that there's a way to surf with speeds up to 112k with regular modems by using two phone lines through something called multilinking. It sounds like something the os can do, but again, there's the cost. Help! lol
The card is actually not tricky. In fact, it is what is known as "plug and play." Just load the drivers, pop in the card, and away you go!
Now do you want to use that as a secondary to dial up? It will conflict at first.
I know that certain WaveLAN and ORiNOCO cards work with DOS because they were developed before 1995, and of course, many things have third-party drivers that were developed later. So it could very well be that there's a newer one for one of these cards. But what I don't know is whether or not I can use a wireless connection with DOS and my fiber optic service from Verizon. Plug and play would certainly make things easier but I've never heard that this capability existed within DOS, including the modern versions. I was under the impression that I'd need to enter some information into a configuration file as I'd need to do with ethernet and dialup. If I go with the wireless, then I wouldn't need the dialup, except as a possible back-up. In any case, why would they conflict? Perhaps, I'll try ethernet if the card doesn't work.
I haven't looked into that but I'll bet you somewhere someone has such a driver. Theoretically it could work but that doesn't mean it does. It might...I really am not sure.
Well, I found a page with a whole bunch of drivers and programs.
http://www.fdisk.com/doslynx/
And here's another one which is a bit rambly but it has some interesting information on connecting to the net as well as some links to useful programs. Unfortunately, it hasn't been updated in awhile and some of the links are broken.
http://members.surfbest.net/wizard57m@surfbest.net/dos.htm
What I'd really like is an uncomplicated step by step tutorial on what I need to do. Perhaps, some books have been written on it or I could find the answers at the DOS forum on computing.net.
I'm not as up on theis old tech as I should be but I bet I B M has something.
Hmm, IBM? Maybe. They've got loads of things. Perhaps, they wrote some kind of book to go along with PC-DOS or something. Thanks.
I downloaded the guide on DR-DOS from Kaldera and didn't see anything there. They did, however, have something on personal netware and networking, so perhaps, that's somewhat related. I don't think so, but at least I could learn how to network my computers so that file transfers etc. will be easier.
I am so very confuse as to why you want to use DOS Tiffanitsa! heck if you want to go that away go with linix. It's a command user interface its very power full as well. Also linix has a Graphical interfaces that can run on top of it.
Hey I don't get it eether but I think it is a good learning tool.
Linux is too complicated and I'm already familiar and comfortable with the DOS interface. Linux makes my head spin.
I know the feeling. Linux makes me want to throw up
I guess if I took time out to learn it it wouldn't be so bad but I hate it.